If the check valve in the 1-1/4" acme filler valve on an automotive tank were to fail (or the check valve in a tank mounted 1-3/4" to 1-1/4" adapter if I am using a larger fill line) I would hope to notice it before the filler fitting was completely disconnected, otherwise I would lose the entire charge in the tank and it would be rather dramatic. Normal operations will resume Tuesday, July 5th. Questions are would I need the pv2341X with 19.
I am rather sure that I know exactly how to work with it but I will not touch it until I am positive. Agreed, the plan is to not heat or have any ignition sources near the tank, but to use only the outage valve on the receiver to bleed vapor from the receiver. Kaiser715 wrote:All in all, the wet leg just not worth the cost and effort. I am pretty sure I could carelessly spin the adapter off without trouble but I don't want to be careless, I want to know exactly what I am doing and why at all times and do it in the safest way. Texas Propane's Liquid Withdrawal Valve. Does anyone know where I can get a cutaway of the pv5136 so I can see how it operates? I don't see the need for 2 efv's right next to each other for my application. All fields are required.
I have seen some BLEVE aftermath photos and don't want any part of something like that:) I want to do it with as many safety measures in place as possible. If I had a reversible pump already attached to the tank it would be just a matter of pulling suction on the line instead of pressure until all the vapor was evaporated from the tank and condensed in the filling tank. Unless, MAYBE, you have a daily driver, and are going thru a lot of propane, and it's hard to get up with your dealer. 5gpm excess flow valve built in and for what reason? If I were to close both valves with the line full of straight liquid it could expand with no place to go, that relief will add the safety I need to that line. Worst case scenario I would have to vent the charge to atmosphere before disconnecting, but if i could close the stop valve on the liquid outlet valve and connect a hose from it to a small empty tank, i could transfer the liquid in the method I was describing above. Is it going to take a lot to get that excess flow valve to activate? 500 gallon propane tank liquid withdrawal valve leak. This worries me, and so does not knowing about other things not as obvious. There are no air compressors anywhere near a propane dispenser station. I have the shut-off valve and the adapter to attach to the excess flow. Opening the outage valve on the receiver tank does NOT lower pressure contrary to common belief. I agree, if I didn't plan on using a substantial amount it just would not pay, my problem is that they charge significantly more by the lb, than they do by the gallon when they deliver it to my home and I don't have a convenient fast local filling station.
Figuring out how to get it on and off the tank safely is really puzzling me right now. Then I took the forklift tank and filled the nearly empty (1. I knew it could be done but this confirmed for me how and gave me the basis for what parts it would take. Turn the hose valve parallel to the hose to begin drawing liquid propane from the large tank into the transfer tank. This excess flow valve is what I am concerned with right now. My problem is that the company I get my propane from will not help me, and any other company I've contacted wants me to be their customer to give me advice or sell me parts. I know why they don't want the general public doing it, I know how dangerous it can be if a leak were to ignite and the risks with frost burns from boiling liquid. We are experiencing some technical difficulties on and apologize for any inconvenience. Call us today at 1-888-820-6511 to set up your new account or create a web login for your existing account. Now dont get us wrong about dangers of are more accidents filling with petrol than LPG. 500 gallon propane tank liquid withdrawal valve installation. Example, my dealer is only 1/2 mile away, but sometimes I go down there, and everybody is out on the road, so have to wait a bit or come back later). This is my hardware: Pv5136 Efv.
As the volume of the vapour area in the top tank increases the fuild evaporates reducing the temp of the top tank and fluid damn near stopps transfering all together, because the bottom tank reaches near equilibriaum doesnt change temp therfore doesnt change pressure. If I knew where to get certified for this I would gladly take the course, it's hard to even find published information on the topic so I'm trying to learn as much as I can so I can do it safely. The liquid withdrawal valve has a safety mechanism built in called an excess flow valve. A cutaway of the pv5136 checkmate would probably answer all my 2341 is just an open/close screw type stop valve. Hence why it is illegal, can only be carried out in certfied areas with trained and qualified people (which doesnt always mean they know what they are just means if things go wrong there is someone to hang it on legally. 10 per gallon last year)! Connect the other end of the hose to a transfer tank. Some tanks have the liquid tap on the bottom, this one is on top and has a metal straw that reaches the bottom of the tank to pull liquid. The most logical solution is to get a spare motorfuel tank and mount it on your trailer and pull liquid from it while refueling it from a commercial dealer. What makes things even more dangerous is in cold temps where a spillage doest just evaporate is like high octane petrol liquid spillage on a hot day with a bigger bang. Then to remove it says to close valve-remove plumbing and then open the valve to activate the excess flow valve again before removing the adapter and valve completely. This actually makes a domestic ASME container into more of a distribution supply source. Propane tanks have several valves and couplers on their exterior surface that facilitate refilling, withdrawing, gas and liquid level gauges and safety features, like the blow-off relief valve that expels excess propane when the tank becomes over-pressurized. We appreciate you signing up.
It does work, I filled my forklift tank from completely empty of liquid to 80% full from 3 different partially full bbq cylinders that were all at roughly the same temp, all sitting outdoors. I am comfortable with storing a properly filled bbq cylinder indoors. From there it would be a matter of what kind of equipment I have. Its like using an open end spanner, use it with the head angle the wrong way you will round bolt heads and smash knucles. My understanding is the difference between the vapor service tank upside down and the liquid service port on a forklift tank is that the e. f. v. in the vapor tank valve will not work correctly and that the pressure relief would be venting liquid instead of vapor if it were to activate. I couldn't agree more, certification is great but it doesn't mean careless people can't still make mistakes, a full and complete knowledge about what I am doing and how and why it works is very important to me. I didn't push him on the subject, I didn't want my friends system to be taken away from him. Disregard anyone who says to turn the bottle upside down to get liquid, this is dangerous and puts all safety devices out of use. Are there any other risks or safety features I could be missing? We had our 1st LPG cars in the early 70s, S. C johnson wa the 1st Company in the world to change from Freaon To LPG as a propellant for aerosols BEFORE it was confirmed the danger to the ozone layer. It looks like when I screw the adapter down it opens the flow which is then protected by the excess flow valve (20gpm I believe).
The tank on the sled has the same basic ports and valves as a forklift cylinder. The valve attached to the liquid withdrawal valve is utilized as a service valve in this capacity. No one legally charges a cylinder with air or nitrogen, and in my 41 years of experience, I have never seen it done commercially. Unless the home fill tank is set up for vapor withdrawal, you will not obtain liquid from it, only vapor. I *really* like franz's suggestion above to get an automotive tank (~30 gallon) and mount on your trailer for filling the snow machine. If you are running into issues, please phone your order in to 1-888-677-5054. The liquid withdrawal valve is often known by its manufacturers given name such as Chek-Lok or Checkmate. However, the proper name is "actuated liquid withdrawal excess flow valve" and it serves a vital role in propane tank liquid evacuation. They are also utilized in consumer applications as a means for refueling portable cylinders. This also invoved putting both LPG and CNG into petrol service stations for automotive use in the early 80s. For dis-assembly the instructions say to remove piping (hose) and to quickly open the valve to the atmosphere activating the efv. We wish you and your family a very Merry Christmas! The liquid withdrawal valve functions only with additional specialized fittings we supply for liquid evacuation.
Because cars are required to have an annual certification,.. top of bi annual warrents of fittness which part is if LPG certified must be current... all installations automotive or otherwise, must be person filling a LPG bottle or car must be in retrospect do I have an issue with Government 'interferance" not a single bit or clause with in that ledgislation. Just like thousands of businesses store their forklift tanks in their heated buildings and hundreds of thousands of people purchase small cylinders for camp stove fuel and plumbing torches and keep them in their houses, it's a risk I am comfortable with. LPG a NZ /Aussie spec tanks. Jupiterimages/ Images.
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